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1941 Chevy AK 3/4 Truck - 4Spd

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 Creating a thread here as a sort of journal/questions as I venture into getting this running. 

 

Based on the serial being AL I can assume this is a 235, not a 216. Serial# 21AL01-6380

I believe I see the pushrod cover screws near the top cover though which would make it a 216. 

235 c.i.
Block: 3660439
Head: 839401
S: AG, AL
Ser #, Ser #: WWII

 

.::History::.

Dad bought it from the original owner sometime in the 70's and parked it inside till '79-80 when it was driven to an outdoor resting place tell 2023. When they drove it up to the hill it "ran great except for the gas spewing from under the hood. I assume the wad of tape on the fuel line near the carb was the culprit there. 

Dad believes it was a 4spd when asked. 

.::Currently::.

Dad is working on finding the title.

The truck is currently in ND me in ID so I am trying to learn as much as possible and then go this coming summer to bring it back home/ try to get it running there as I go to keep up the place for a week or so every year, so progress will be slow till about April. 

 

.::Purchased so far::.

1097 Parts Catalog
1096 Shop Manual
1098 Truck Manual

.::My knowledge::.

I work on my own Subarus 1990s Only- EJ motors-

Rebuilt in terms of head gaskets - never cracked or assembled a block yet. 

 

I appreciate the warm welcome I received in my General topic. 

Hopefully, this thread will be packed for better or worse with pictures about my journey with this thing because it has to run at least enough for me to take my Dad for a ride next summer 😀 even if it's just to the end of the trailer. 

It will drive again. 

I'm all eyeballs until then for any advice. 

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Someone with more expertise than I will need to confirm but I believe it's a 216. Post rebuild pics of my 38 216 are below for comparison. Of course, with a '41 the oil diverter valve will be different than shown on my 38.

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Hi North1941

Tiny is correct, you SHOULD have a 216 engine.

But, that certainly may have been swapped out at some point in the past.

Identifying the 235 produced from 1941 to 1949 can be difficult as it will be visually nearly identical to the 216 (including the tall side cover) and thus quite hard to identify with a quick look.

The 235 was first introduced as an option by Chevrolet in 1941, but only in the heavy (1-1/2 ton) trucks, and with ENGINE serial numbers beginning with the prefixes AG on regular trucks and AL on cab overs.

The engine serial number will be found on a smooth area on the block just under where the distributor is mounted in the block.

 

From your pictures, I think your truck does indeed have a 4 speed transmission.

This can be confirmed by the presence of the little finger lever and rod on the right side of the gear shift.

That lever had to be pulled up while moving the gear shift to the right and back to shift into reverse.

Hope that helps!  🙂

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I am a sign maker, had to make some artwork for home to get me through the winter. 

Shooting to bring the truck home in March. 

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@tiny What product did you use for the engine covering, is that powder coating?

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@tiny What product did you use for the engine covering, is that powder coating?

I used the Gray engine paint sold by The Filling Station. They have an ad at the top of the page. We added a hardener to it to make it more durable.

 

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@ole-olson Ole, You might want to re-read that last paragraph of your post regarding the location of reverse gear on the 4 speed transmission. Unless you always park so that you can continue forward, I'm not sure how you have been able to get around if that is where you look for reverse.

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@35mike 

Yup!  🙂. 👍

I was out with the '46 today and when I went to back out of the driveway my hand instinctively put the truck in reverse, but then my mind went "hey, wait a minute, what did you write in that post again?".

I was obviously thinking of the SM420 in our 1963 GMC when I was writing that.

Thanks for pointing that out!

My bad.

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Okay, now I REALLY feel stupid.

I was almost asleep when I woke up and said "hey, wait!".

I wasn't thinking of the sm420 either, it's our '85 C60 that has the reverse over and down.  (an SM465)

And our '84 GMC C70 with the 5 speed with the short 4th is over and UP.  (a New Process I think)

It all comes natural when I'm sitting in the trucks (muscle memory), but my brain cells just aren't keeping up any more.  🙂

 

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@35mike 

One more thing...

Is there a name for that old Chev 4 speed with the reverse finger lever?

I've seen it called a GKT134 somewhere, but never in any Chevrolet literature.

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@ole-olson I have heard them called a few names but I will refrain from mentioning them here. It's a family friendly forum

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@35mike

🙂

Having grown up double clutchng...

I rather like mine. 🙂

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Thinking about appropriate trailer.

Am I correct in reading the overall fender width of this truck is 72 9/16th at its widest point.

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@north1941 

I'm seeing 72 inches even from multiple sources.

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Found the title today, and my Mom busted out the photo album.

This was taken by my Mom on their first date. The story is they went fishing then my Dad asked if she could shoot so he had her shoot at a can near the water and she missed the can, and a fish came floating up. Mom can shoot fish 😀


   
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.........he had her shoot at a can near the water and she missed the can, and a fish came floating up. Mom can shoot fish 😀

That's hilarious! Great story.

 

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To find out if you have a 1941 235 engine, use the casting number, NOT the serial number. Confirm on page . The other way to identify a 235 is pull out the dip stick. If the hole is threaded, it's a 235. If it's smooth, it's a 216.
Chevy used a non-syncromesh 4-speed with 6 bold power take off, from second series 1931 - 1940 and an interchangeable 4-speed from 1941 - 1947. The difference being the earlier trans had one more tooth on low gear giving it 7.22 : 1 in low vs 7.06 in low. .


   
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