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Dick W Pirkey
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I posed a similar question on this 15 years ago and need to revisit this again. If the car has no top to tell the color for differentiation. Both appear to have rumble seats and bumper steps. No other ID on either. How do you tell them apart. Some have said that a 1927 Coupe never had a rumble seat, not till a later year. Some have said the Cabriolet has a wider window and shorter. Coupes all had black faux leather tops and cabriolets had beige canvass tops. If you google this question, it will show you our discussion of 2008 on this. I have found another car and it appears to be a cabriolet, like mine, but he says it is coupe??????? The rumble seat question is the best qualifier, I believe...... Did or did not a 1927 Coupe have a rumble seat??? There is no such thing as a Sport Coupe.... that was a Sport Cabriolet. The only car in 1927 called a 2+2 was a Sport Cabriolet. In 1927 they never made a rumble seated Coupe. There are only 3 models to contend with, Roadster, Coupe and Sport Cabriolet. Let me hear your opinions....I think there are thousands of mis-identified cabriolets out there.

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Dick, are you referring to this conversation on the AACA site?

https://forums.aaca.org/topic/113948-1927-chevrolet-capitol-aa-landau-sports-coupe/

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Yes, I keep forgetting it was that site... sorry,


   
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Posted by: @johnny-reb

Yes, I keep forgetting it was that site... sorry,

It's all good my man. The old saying is "to err is human" and I'm constantly proving I'm a human being. 😀

 

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Tiny, why is there little to no interest in a scholarly way to solve this question. We do have historians who should be able to once and for all clarify these questions. In the interest of accuracy, shouldn't we as a club answer this grey area on the two models? Here I go.

Facts: In 1927 there was no Sport Coupes. There were no 1927 Coupes with rumble seats. All 1927 Coupes were topped in black faux leather. All 1927 Sport Cabriolets were beige canvass tops in one body color, green. The difference can be seen in the window shapes and front windshield configurations. 1927 Coupe windshields roll up and 1927 Cabriolet windshields fold out from the bottom. The 1927 Coupe has no steps on the bumper and fenders as does the Cabriolet. The trunk on a Coupe hinges from the top and a Cabriolet from the bottom for the rumble seat. The production numbers are hard to decipher. I have an original ad from 1927 showing only 8 models were made. The Coach, The Sedan, The Touring Car, The Roadster, The Imperial Landau, The Sport Cabriolet, The Landau and The Coupe. Maybe 3 times as many Coupes were made as Sport Cabriolets were made. I would think owners would want to know the rarity of their cars, as the market sure pays attention to that in all other cars. I want now to apologize, I am a retired Ag. Ed. teacher and as a teacher I am bugged by non-precise areas of study. Some may think I am beating a dead horse. I just seek clarity. I am not confrontational. I am informational. Lets go on record with a decisive answer to this question.


   
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Now I'm confused, my friend has what he says is a 27 coupe, however, I told him the engine is a 28 and now I am looking at pictures I took and see that it has a rumble seat.  Is his car a 28?  How do I check?

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Looks like a 1927, (short hood (16 louvers) 27 rad shell) with a 1928 engine


   
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Based on the photos it is a 1927 Sport Cabriolet. It is painted the factory color for the '27 Sport Cabriolet.

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The Chevrolet literature color is too green for the Sport Cabriolet. Another example of the inaccuracy of original period literature. Photos were often staged, retouched or altered to be more artistic or appealing in print media. The turquoise in the photos posted by Pete are much closer to the original factory paint color.

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@andy-somers-2

So is it a cabriolet?  It's not a convertible.  The original roof material was missing but it does have a rumble seat.

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Thanks, Chip.

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I would call it a Cabriolet. It has a rumble seat, a folding top and shorter windows in the doors.


   
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Sorry on the road to buy another sport cabriolet. The 1927 top did not fold down.it was rushed into production.ford was down retooling fo the model a. It was canvass top.it was more hunter green than blue. All 1927 s with rum le seats were cabriolets

 

 

 


   
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@bare-feet Not in 1927. I was rushed into production to sell to women.


   
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@bare-feet This car is not only the wrong color but has the wrong top for a 1927 Cabriolet.


   
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@chip Old records state green and blue but more of blue green than a bright blue.

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