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#97223 - 03/12/07 12:16 PM
Strange-looking 1937, what brand could this be?
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Registered: 11/01/06
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Loc: Oslo, Norway
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We have the information that it is a 37, and # is XBSA 264, although it has double rear wheels and 157". Could it have been put together from several trucks? Oldsmobile, GMC and Chevrolet? It is registered as a Chevy. [img] http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/5605/1937chevroletwu5.png[img]
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#97235 - 03/12/07 02:06 PM
Re: Strange-looking 1937, what brand could this be
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Registered: 11/01/06
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The ID chassis # is XBSA 264, which tells it(that part of the truck) was assembled in Copenhagen. This could be a truck consisting of the remains of more than one. They took what thy found after the war to rebuild the usable one to running status. But the grille is strange. Someone told that they had Oldsmobile trucks in Australia with same grille. May be the front part came from Antwerp? I will ask the owner about the engine #.
At some stage the rear axle was changed to fit double wheels.
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#97376 - 03/14/07 05:09 AM
Re: Strange-looking 1937, what brand could this be
[Re: 35 pickup man]
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Registered: 11/01/06
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Loc: Oslo, Norway
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Casting # is GM 838101 and 6 underneath
The owner has found a picture of the front of a similar 1937 Oldsmobile Panel Van, but with 2 ribs less on each side of the grille. Anyone in Australia who knows of these fronts?
The middle part of the grille looks like it has been homemade?
The truck has a 131,5" wheelbase. Originally registered with total weight 4550 kg, but later changed to 5550 kg.
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#98207 - 03/26/07 06:29 PM
Re: Strange-looking 1937, what brand could this be
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I remember seeing some pics of late 30s trucks badged as oldsmoblies but it mentioned they were for export only and the grille looked like the truck in question. Jeff
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#99429 - 04/16/07 04:55 AM
Re: Strange-looking 1937, what brand could this be
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Registered: 11/01/06
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I am still waiting for more pictures of this truck. In the meantime I have got more information from another source here in Norway:
Special export models (1937-1940) delivered in C.K.D. boxes from the GMC factory in Pontiac to the assembly factories in Europe and Canada. GMC chassis and cab with Chevrolet or Hercules engine. They were sold as Chevrolet or Oldsmobile's. In Canada they were also delivered with Pontiac engine.
Series........Load..........Wheel base.........Comments: TG-117........1 1/2ton..........117"..............COE, twin rear wheels TD-117.........."....................."................As TG, but w/Hercules diesel engine BG................"...............144,166,183,5.....Bus-chassis,Chev. 216cid gas engine BD................"....................."...................."..........., Herc. diesel engine TE-108......2 1/2ton............108"..............COE, single rear wheels TF-108.........."......................"....................",... twin.........." TG-130.........." ..................130".................." , single rear wheels TH-130 ........." .................... " ................. " , twin........"........... TG-155.........." .................155 1/2".............",...."......" TM-155.........."...................."......................",. single..... " TN-155..........."..................."......................" , twin........."
From 1937 Canadian-built Chevrolets got model names with 4 digits: Series 1300, 1400, 1500 and 1600.
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#99511 - 04/17/07 07:35 PM
Re: Strange-looking 1937, what brand could this be
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Registered: 10/17/06
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Loc: St.John Indiana
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Hey, check this out. ?????? http://www.prewarbuick.com/features/jedclampettsbuick click on Jed clampetts Buick, pretty interesting.
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#99543 - 04/18/07 02:24 PM
Re: Strange-looking 1937, what brand could this be
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Registered: 12/31/06
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XB = General Motors Continental BV, Kobenhaven, Danmark SA = 1937 Model 1.5 tonne 131 inch wheelbase 237 = 236th built Casting # 838101 = 1937 cylinder block Engine # quoted is in the 1937 Flint - built engine number series The grille looks as though it may have come off an Oldsmobile truck! Olds trucks were built by the Pontiac, Michigan, Plant from 1935 to 1940 and exported everywhere, except to Canada. They were basically GMCs although from 1937 Cab-over-Engine Olds trucks were available which were GMC clones, right down to GMC-logod footpedals, although Pontiac also offered a Chevrolet version which was similar to the 1937-8 Canadian COE, well before the US! Engines were Chevrolet COE or Hercules Diesel (Chevrolet COE) or GMC (GMC Normal Control or COE) to 1937 thereafter Oldsmobile 224, and Oldsmobile (NC or COE) to 1940. Gearboxes were Chevrolet in each case I think, but axles could be Chevrolet or Timken-Detroit. If you want details of these export Chevrolets see my website under "1937 trucks". GM Continental assembled Chev, GMC and Olds trucks and as there was a considerable amount of commonality, I can understand an Olds grille or one based thereon being fitted by someone. The Olds grilles differed from the GMC equivalents, but not by much. And yes, GM-Holden's assembled Olds trucks, and yes we got them here in the UK, 1937-8 only. I must add that in 1934? an Olds sedan delivery was available..one year only, though why they did not carry on goodness knows though 1935-9 a light chassis panel van was available in the export market. http://clubs.hemmings.com/clubsites/chevytalk/GMhistory/1931to1938.htm
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#101729 - 05/27/07 11:00 AM
Re: Strange-looking 1937, what brand could this be
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Registered: 11/01/06
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From several books I have checked the last weeks, this Norwegian truck must be an Oldsmobile. They were only for the export markets, such as Europe, Oceania etc. Pictures, and text from several sources are supporting this conclusion. I hope it will be restored, as it must be near to "one of a kind" here. Thanks for all help, folks! 
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#103674 - 07/05/07 11:04 AM
Re: Strange-looking 1937, what brand could this be
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The grille looks Olds. They were made in Australia and used flat head engines. Australia is a Right hand Drive country and used a Holden cab. The cab appears after market on a cowl chassis. See picture of 37 Oldsmobile panel with Holden body about mid-page at <http://home.znet  /t1937/Panel.htm>.
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#104693 - 07/25/07 10:42 AM
Re: Strange-looking 1937, what brand could this be
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Registered: 12/31/06
Posts: 96
Loc: Southampton, England
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Why do I never see these new postings!
1. Buicks: the 1923 3/4-tonner was the Model 23-3SD or Special Duty, and a similar truck chassis was produced in 1924 as the 24-4SD which itself was produced well into 1925 and was the last 4-cylinder Buick chassis.
2. Oldsmobile trucks were assembled in the US from 1917, initially a depot wagon, then the 1919-1922 Model T one-tonner, followed by the 1934 Sedan Delivery.
3. Olds trucks were exported from Pontiac, MI plant from 1935 to 1940 and GM-Holden's assembled them during those years from chassis-cabs, Holden's adding their own cab.
4. That truck in the photos seems to be a '37 export Chevrolet with an Olds grille off a locally-assembled Olds truck!
5. The UK received Olds trucks in 1937 and 1938 only, with rhd. They were basically GMC clones, with Olds 224 engines.
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#151637 - 09/04/09 01:34 PM
Re: Strange-looking 1937, what brand could this be
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Registered: 01/05/02
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Loc: Epsom, NH
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I'd like to drag this up out of the dust for a few comments. I can't see the original photo posted to start this thread, but the last photo posted is pretty cool. Google image of 1937 Olds truck sales brochure What is really impressive to me is the use of vent windows in such an early design. The Aussie truck looks to be spot on, and not a conglomeration of parts. I wonder if it was ever purchased for restoration. I'd love to have that truck and put it back to original. i might throw a pickup bed on it ILO of the flatbed, but hey, I'm not going to own it anyway! It seems as though you could try to replicate it with various parts. The cab seems Chevy-like but not totally. Chevy trim on GMC hoodsides. Not sure where to get that grille from. You'd sure get a few looks here in the States with a resored version of that truck! Here's a '38 COE from the same website. There's a lot of good pictures of Olds trucks in there. Snoop around!
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#152606 - 09/15/09 07:08 PM
Re: Strange-looking 1937, what brand could this be?
[Re: Solan]
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Registered: 04/29/05
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Loc: USA
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Wouldn't one of these "restored" for use as a car hauler be a "kick in the pants"? One of my buddies and I have been pondering finding an already butchered (body/drive train etc.) COE and finishing it as a crew cab with a flat bed, winch assembly to use to haul our cars/trucks to shows etc. Major problem has been selling the idea to the better half(s) despite the crew cab concept. Oh well... dreams are cheap.
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