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#64129 - 11/24/05 09:41 AM Non-original cool part...
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I thought this was a cool add on....especially for you west coast guys.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1932-Olympics-Licens...sspagenameZWDVW

How much does this type of thing (AAA, palm tree, etc.)on a licence plate cost you in points when judged? It not like an incorrect motor part or a wrong interior.
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#64130 - 11/24/05 04:04 PM Re: Non-original cool part...
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gator: i collect such license plate adornemnts and at 31 bucks, its a bargain. mike

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#64131 - 11/24/05 10:19 PM Re: Non-original cool part...
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Points??

I'd ding a guy the MAXIMUM. And if I could find a legitimate "reason" to, I'd take off even more. How ridiculous could a guy be to submit his car for judging with something like that on the car????

Especially considering it would have taken less than five minutes to remove it.

I think it's a totally cool item. But N-O-T for judging. Come on. Let's show a little respect for the guys that volunteer their time and expertise to judge the cars!!!

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#64132 - 11/25/05 07:00 AM Re: Non-original cool part...
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I'd give you two points extra if you can prove its a 1932 original and you display it on a 1932 Chevrolet.
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#64133 - 11/25/05 07:09 AM Re: Non-original cool part...
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Like anything else it would depend on the judge. If it was my decision I would let it pass if the car is a 1932.Dealer tags and plates are accepted as long as they are correct for the period.

Sure it will go for much more than the $31.00
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#64134 - 11/25/05 07:21 AM Re: Non-original cool part...
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NAW....This isn't a dealer installed option !!! You let this pass and next thing would be those lodge tags all over the non stock radiator shield on a 28 and how about a authentic 1950's Car club plaque on a 1954 BelAire?
That would be a can of worms.
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#64135 - 11/25/05 07:46 AM Re: Non-original cool part...
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If you can have the wrong year engine with no points deducted, how is that different than having the wrong year license plate tag? Which do you feel is the more important to have correct of the two? ;\) \:D \:D
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#64136 - 11/25/05 09:29 AM Re: Non-original cool part...
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In 1932 the dealer could have been promoting the Olympics and installed the attachnemt.

I see cars being judged with American Flags,State Farm wings, and various other things as attachments-wonder if they get deducted?I have a VCCA oval on one of my cars..is that OK??

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#64137 - 11/25/05 10:15 AM Re: Non-original cool part...
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I can see a difference between a naked girl mud flaps and an AAA symbol on a car.

Gene, I have wondered about the award ovals on cars; they weren't there when the car was new, so is there an official exception for ovals? Or maybe only VCCA ovals?
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#64138 - 11/25/05 11:15 AM Re: Non-original cool part...
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From what I understand, You must have the senior oval on your car to have It judged In the preservation class.
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#64139 - 11/25/05 11:27 AM Re: Non-original cool part...
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Gator,
I'm glad to know you noticed "a difference between a naked girl and mud flaps".

I'm still trying to figure out the difference between a fox tail and mud flaps?
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#64140 - 11/25/05 11:44 AM Re: Non-original cool part...
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Don is correct, the VCCA oval is required to be displayed on the car.

The other stuff is baloney.

Keep it off during judging.

Judging isn't really complicated Gator. I don't understand why you're trying to make it complicated. Just follow the 'rules' whether you like them or not.

Just follow the rules.

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#64141 - 11/25/05 11:57 AM Re: Non-original cool part...
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So we take off for AACA ovals?

"Just follow the 'rules' whether you like them or not. Just follow the rules."

I don't think there would be a United States of America if people always had done that Bill. Sounds more like the motto of all of the totalitarian leaders that have lived instead.
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#64142 - 11/25/05 12:24 PM Re: Non-original cool part...
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Bill, I'd like to know abour the AACA ovals and VMCCA Gold Award. What do you say?

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#64143 - 11/25/05 12:38 PM Re: Non-original cool part...
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Gator, Take notice. I do not know If you attended a VCCA judging school or participated in any meets. I did two years ago for the first time at our reginal northwest meet In Auburn Washington.The judging school was attended by Jim Farris, Ray holland, Bruce Deford and about sixty other chevy people, And I have to tell you that every single person, Weather they were going to have their car judged or not, Had nothing but good words to say about, What they learned and how the judging Is done. Steve Scott came to Auburn to put the judging school on. We had almost every person who attended the judging school,Become a participant In judging the cars the next day. I have since been a judge and have had my cars judged and have found It to be a fun thing to participate In. I also found that having my cars judged, That there were things that was not correct on my cars, Which gave me the Information to make corrections, Not to cut the car down for things that were wrong.But to give me a way to correct them. I think that If more people would get Involved In judging, Instead of steering away from It, That they would understand what judging Is about, And that they are really missing out on alot of fun and participation at meets they attend. Touring Is also one of the really fun things to participate In at meets. Being Involved In all aspects of being a VCCA member, Is what It Is all about, Instead of complaining about this and that.Get Involved at the VCCA meets, And who knows, It might just be the best fun you ever had. This Information Is directed to everyone. BE happy, Have Fun, Get Involved. \:\)
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#64144 - 11/25/05 12:58 PM Re: Non-original cool part...
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I feel the same as you Don, so I don't understand the comments...

I am not complaining about anything, all I (and others) wanted to know was if they would lose points if they left badges/ovals from other groups on their cars when showing at a VCCA meet.
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#64145 - 11/25/05 01:30 PM Re: Non-original cool part...
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You will not loose points for AACA badges....But if your car has previously earned a VCCA oval-Senior,Preservation or HPOCF - it must be displayed on the car and in the specified place.
At one time they didn't specify a place so mine are in different locations on all the cars.

For one car I ordered two of the oval mounting brackets sold in the G&D and have the AACA and VCCA ovals mounted on the ends of the front license plate.One to each side.On three of the cars their stuck to the dash/glove box door and one above the front license.

As far as judging is concerned....yes,it fun and not the evil thing that it is sometimes portrayed to be here.Its all done by humans so there will be mistakes and problems.

The thing that bothers me is that I don't think some would be too happy if they lost 2 points for a license attachement and had the correct engine and the car that is next to them got a first senior by 2 points and had an incorrect engine.Like a '31 engine in a '32.Thats the area that reqires rethinking.
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#64146 - 11/25/05 01:36 PM Re: Non-original cool part...
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Gator: The preface to the judging manual states in part:

C. Philosophy
"It is the owners’ understanding that when they decide to have their vehicles judged, that we, as club members, are comparing their vehicles to how the manufacturer delivered the vehicles to the dealer and (on) to the public."

D. Vehicle Requirements
"All non-authentic items on vehicles will receive appropriate deductions."

\:D \:D \:D
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#64147 - 11/25/05 03:04 PM Re: Non-original cool part...
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Cool answer Mr. JD

I bet you a silly response. (post count?)
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#64148 - 11/25/05 04:13 PM Re: Non-original cool part...
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I've always said, "do what you're told."

That's why these idiots on the TV news get in trouble. The cops say, 'vacate the area' and the idiots (rabble rousers) with nothing to lose, surge forward, instead of leaving.

If the coach said run 3 laps, you were to run 3 laps. Not walk, not goof off, not 2 laps.

If the DI said hit it and 20 pushups - that's what you were to do. (Even you should be able to understand that, Wayne.)

NOW, if you don't want to follow their rules (whoever "they" are), you never should have been "there" in the first place. If you don't like the VCCA judging 'rules' don't submit your car for judging.

I just think the rules are the rules and that's it. What the hell does that have to do with "totalitarian leaders??"

( "Sounds more like the motto of all of the totalitarian leaders that have lived instead." )

All clubs, organizations, churches, govt's, etc. etc. have 'rules.' Rules are to be followed, until they're changed. Changed by following the rules on how to change them.

I think there's lots of posting in here just so the "poster" can hear himself "talk."

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#64149 - 11/25/05 04:40 PM Re: Non-original cool part...
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Where are you on the post count Bill?

"I think there's lots of posting in here just so the "poster" can hear himself "talk".
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#64150 - 11/25/05 04:55 PM Re: Non-original cool part...
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Ahhhh... posting count.... now you're in my ballfield.

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#64151 - 11/25/05 05:20 PM Re: Non-original cool part...
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Hi Bill,

Make us all mad by turning off the senseless count. I'm also convinced there are a preponderance of posts for the "count". As you indicated, they really mean nothing.

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#64152 - 11/25/05 05:32 PM Re: Non-original cool part...
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Yeah Billy, The counting of posts is something that I see has no value except as an ego boost, get rid of them...I am counting posts.. one posts,...two posts,... three posts...I am de Count and I am counting posts.
Dis sounds like a game we kids used to play on a trip, before on board DVD players...count the telephone poles.
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#64153 - 11/25/05 05:45 PM Re: Non-original cool part...
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"Posting Counts"-- been involved with the Chatter for a couple years now and i too think there are one or two VCCA posters who do so to keep their # of posts high by posting unecessarily. however, the NCRS forum's method of tracking posts really encourages frequent postings---you can click on the "top 25 posters" button by the minute and see who's got the most posts in that time frame. About 99% of the ncrs posts are genuine attempts to get or give corvette-related info . there are a couple of ncrs members who post just to see themselves posting and keep their names in the "top 25 posters" list. I'd suspect 99.9% of the VCCA posts are genuine attempts to give or get info. my 2 cents. mike

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