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#45951 - 06/05/06 05:10 AM
Re: 8 volt battery in six volt car
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Registered: 02/18/02
Posts: 100
Loc: Hillsborough, NC
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Tweaking the voltage regulator is necessary. It requires you to know which is the voltage limit relay and exactly how to bend the spring tab.
You'd be better off to make sure you have fat cables (both hot and ground) with good terminations and clean connections. Of course the starter should be in good condition, with a clean commutator and good brushes.
The 8V battery will run over 9.5V at full charge. That will eat your light bulbs and radio vibrator and tubes.
Sounds like a bad idea to me.
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#45957 - 06/05/06 07:30 PM
Re: 8 volt battery in six volt car
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Registered: 12/14/01
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Loc: Central Texas
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Bill, go ahead and buy the cars,just change the battery. Some people just don't get it!
Specially the guy that changed the batteries to 8 volts in the first place.
Once up on a time when I put a new 261 short block in a 52 and kept the old 52 starter and the raggedy-a**ed cables it was hard to start with the old starter, so I changed to a 8 volt battery, it didn't help because of the cables and the worn out starter, but it did burn out both headlights on a 220 mile trip from college back home one night. My dad told me I had my head up...well you know.
I found out that at Tractor Supply one of the young clerks usually asks me "Would a 8 volt battery not be better?" when I pick up a 6 volt battery.... "The 8 volt battery is only a couple of dollars more."
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#45960 - 06/06/06 08:04 AM
Re: 8 volt battery in six volt car
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Registered: 12/14/01
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Probably one of those "New Generation" of Auto Technicians that don't realize there is anything but rice rockets, rice rocket clones and Big old 18 wheelers running down the roads! They think a performance machine is a rice rocket with a thermos bottle exhaust tip, a sun roof and a CD player! "A six volt battery in that old-timey car? Youse gotta be kiddin' me! My cordless drill and impact wrench has a 18 volt battery" 
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#45961 - 06/07/06 12:52 PM
Re: 8 volt battery in six volt car
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Shade Tree Mechanic
Registered: 02/18/02
Posts: 100
Loc: Hillsborough, NC
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Yep, I missed it...not sure why. Yes, with cutouts, the system raises the voltage automatically. The 50's cars all have real regulators, however, so if the 8V installation was done properly they would have had to tweak the voltage relay spring. Measure the battery voltage at fast idle. If it's been reset, you should see 9.5V or so. If not, you should see about 7.4, full charge on a 6V battery.
I don't see how it could have worked without resetting, since the 7.4 setting would never charge an 8V battery.
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#45962 - 06/08/06 06:52 PM
Re: 8 volt battery in six volt car
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Registered: 05/08/05
Posts: 50
Loc: seattle, wa
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I the "olden days" i drove several early '50s F***s with 8 volt batterys in them. It was a good thing. Jim
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#45963 - 06/09/06 11:47 AM
Re: 8 volt battery in six volt car
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Registered: 05/05/06
Posts: 91
Loc: Tualatin, OR
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It's an interesting topic of discussion but I wonder if the practice, widespread and time-tested though it is, has any actual measurable benefit? I work more with solid state components, so humor me for a moment, and I'll invite you automotive electrical gurus to comment or correct me as needed. It seems that if the 6V system's generator is recharging the battery to what I'm guessing is less than 8V, the net effective increase in starting power would be temporary at best. After an initial current output increase of about 33%, the charging system would tend to taper it off. The practice may possibly even yield no actual starting power improvement over what changing to a fresh 6V battery would gain. And I agree, change it back. The engineers who designed it knew more about it than the owner or mechanic who changed it over.
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#45964 - 06/09/06 05:58 PM
Re: 8 volt battery in six volt car
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Registered: 02/18/02
Posts: 100
Loc: Hillsborough, NC
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A properly operating 6V regulator will not charge the 8V battery anywhere near full. Probably not even enough to start the car after the initial rundown. There would be far less energy available than from the properly charged 6V battery.
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