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#40559 - 01/13/03 11:00 AM
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Loc: Vancouver, WA
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Hi John, 1961 CORVAIR Specifications: WHEELS AND TIRES; Corvair sedans and Club coupes: 13" wheels, 6.50X13 tires. Lakewood Station Wagon: 13" wheels, 7.00 X 13" tires. Greenbrier: 14" wheels, 7.00 X 14" tires. 4-ply rating blackwall tubless tires on all models. Spare tire and wheel. OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT; GREENBRIER AND GREENBRIER DE LUXE SPORTS WAGON OPTIONS. White sidewall tires-7.00 X 14" 4-ply rating R.P.O. 647 Black sidewall tires-7.00 X 14" 6-ply rating R.P.O. 648 White sidewall tires-7.00-14" 6-ply rating R.P.O. 674 4-DOOR SEDAN, CLUB COUPE, AND LAKEWOOD STATION WAGON OPTIONS; White sidewall tires-6.50 X 13" R.P.O 661 White sidewall tires-7.00 X 13" R.P.O.449 Lakewood station wagon only Nothing in the Dealer's Album that I found specificies the width of the white sidewall, however all pictures of cars in the album with white sidewall tires show the full width whitewall. If my memory serves me correct this was the last year for the full width whitewall. 
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#40562 - 01/14/03 06:26 PM
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Registered: 12/15/01
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Loc: franklin pa
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Some wher in my foggy old mind I recall a Monza whitewall , I think it was on sixty one Monzas as all the sixty twos had narrow whites [a little over an inch wide.] any other minds recall this? I was working in a Chevrolet dealership at the time,and it rings a bell.
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#40570 - 01/16/03 07:52 AM
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Registered: 12/16/01
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Loc: Glen Cove, NY
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Chevgene, I don't have a 61 Engineering Features Book, but I do have the a 1960 and 62. The 1962 book (bottom of pages 76-79) idicates for all cars (including Corvette) that this was the case. For the 700 and 500 series Corvair it states" Wheels are black when optional wheels disks and white sidewall tires are factory installed." For the Monza Series it states "Wheels are black when optional whitewall tires are factory installed." It is pretty interesting. I can see this being effective for production costs. I have a feeling that this started in 1961. I am not sure about ChevyII's because there was a seperate Engineering Features Book for them in 62. Now the photograph of the 61 700 Corvair with the narrow whites, could have been retouched, but I don't think so. I have a feeling that car was delivered with the full wheel disks and and whitewall's from the factory. I also feel that when the car was ordered from the factory that way, it automatically got the thinline whitewalls, but I would love to see it on paper somewhere to confirm this hunch! It just makes me wonder as to how deep this tied in to production. I owned a 62 Impala SS back in the 70's. The car was original and was painted Corona Cream (a rare color, a real nice soft yellow) It had body color rims, and it really confused me because tht car came from the factory with full size wheel covers (being a SS) for years as to why the rims were painted body color. From what I know now, the car was ordered with blackwall tires. Now this is the stuff I like to sink my teeth into! John
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#40575 - 01/17/03 09:38 AM
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Registered: 12/16/01
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Loc: Glen Cove, NY
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Gene, Doing some more research, your 61 dealer book said all full size cars/all cars (except the corvette) had body color rims. I think the change started in late 61. The 61 SS was the first full size car in the V-8 era to have as standard equipt narrow band whitewalls/ and full size wheel covers. On the cover of the June 1961 Motor Trend there is a GREAT photo of a roman red 61 SS coupe smoking the tires. The rim was black. I know these were a limited production, and also produced after the printing of the fingertip facts book, so anything is possible, but they all had the same tires and rims. The 62 engineering book clearly states that factory ordered white walls and full size wheelcovers only dictated black rims across the board on all models. From what I can see the 61 SS was the transition that lead to the policy printed in 62. Looking at it, there is a lot of practicality to this production change, and I am sure it was cost effective. Just mount a load of whitewall tires on black rims, they could have even been delivered to the plant this way. Lets keep digging! John
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