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#40082 - 10/16/02 09:04 AM can't find brake parts
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I'm trying to get my '60 Apache 10 4x4 on the road and I'm real close. Among other things, I've replaced every component in the brake system except for the adjuster springs, wich are in good condition. The only wheel that I need to replace the springs on is the front rt. Since it's a 4x4, I can't find replacement springs in any parts store or online. In all cases Ive seen there isn't even a part listing for front springs on a 4x4.
Would you know where I could find some replacement springs?(I'm 2 springs away from having this sucker on the road- HELP!)
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#40083 - 10/16/02 09:10 AM Re: can't find brake parts
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Try these, all on the www. Chevy Duty, Americian Classic truck parts, Kanter . Also have you tried your Chevrolet dealer's parts manager? Or NAPPA etc.?

have you looked in a parts interchange book? seems that I remember the 4x4s takeing the same stuff as the 51 thru 5? passanger cars, but I could be wrong.
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#40084 - 10/16/02 03:52 PM Re: can't find brake parts
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The springs are difficult to look up in the parts book because the rears are regular 1/2 ton but the fronts are not the same.I believe the front axle was a Dana unit.Anyhow the lower adjusting spring is a Bendix # 29716 and the upper pull back springs ar Bendix #305545.They may fit other trucks so if you can find a Bendix catalog or a crossreference you may come up with some thing.
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#40085 - 10/16/02 04:01 PM Re: can't find brake parts
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Thanks for correcting me Chevy Nut.
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#40086 - 10/16/02 06:58 PM Re: can't find brake parts
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You are welcome MrMack the pleasure was all mine.>>>>>>>>>Now a little correction of my own.After restudying the parts book I believe the correct numbers should be Bendix 305545 which is Chev. part # 2408323 and Bendix # 305546 which is Chev. #2408324.These parts fit from 1960 and up but my book only goes up to 1963 but I would guess that the springs would fit up to at least 1966.
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#40087 - 10/18/02 06:38 AM Re: can't find brake parts
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Iam getting some conflicting information in my Chevrolet parts books. The April of 60 book list the spring for "all 4WD" part number 497832. My March of 1966 book list 57-63 Series 20 4 WD and 63 Pass (409) (RPO Z-11) part number 509209. The strange part is that in the 1960 book they list "All 4 WD" using the same spring, and in 1966 the only have an application for the Series 20 listed. They do give a measurement of 1 and 3/32 inches for the spring in the 66 book. The Z-11 part is the scarey part, they only made less than 60 of these cars. The April of 1957 book does not even list an application for series 10! It almost looks like that needle in the haystack is going to happen with this search. I am sure that this spring has other GM applications, or even other brands it just seems like it will be a tough search.
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#40088 - 10/18/02 09:36 AM Re: can't find brake parts
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Yes ,they did make this difficult to dertermine the correct part.That's why I have looked several times to get thru the fog.The springs were used only from 1960-63.Only on 1/2 ton (series 10).It was a Dana front axle which was used on various make trucks.They do have some 20 series things mixed in but I believe this is an error.This would have been a rare part in most parts of the country back in the '60's.>>>>>>>>>>I have ann old Bendix book but lists shoes,no springs.I have a later Bendix book that lists hadrware ( issued 1984)and it list 4 wd springs from 1964 and up and they were the same as a car.The bendix numbers at that time begin with the letter H and are four diget numbers so they changed so where.There is no obsolete number change over. I found the old Bendix numbers from my 1964 Chev. parts book which shows both the Chev.. and Bendix numbers.I do have the later Bendix number for 57-66 Ford 4wd which also used a Dana axle,its H130 ...Could it be the same????? notice its an old number..only three digets.
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#40089 - 10/18/02 12:34 PM Re: can't find brake parts
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I just checked my wagner and Lee books and I am having the same problem in that there is no listing for anything prior to 64. The Lee catalog has a diagram and demension section in the back. This almost looks like one of those things that you are going to have to match up, and when you do I would buy a few!!!!!! I have a garage ful of spare stuff I will never use, but it is ther just in case. I have a few more places to look, so I am sure we will come up with something
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#40090 - 10/18/02 03:03 PM Re: can't find brake parts
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I have transferred this post from a double entry....

Thanks for your help, guys. By the time I had posted my problem I had been to countless classic parts/hard to find parts sites, all to no avail. Chev Nut, I've been trying the part numbers you gave for the springs but the Bendix sites and others that let you search by part number don't find the parts. Is there a prefix like T-305545 before the number or something? Also, where did you get that wonderful parts listing book of yours? And if you wanted to order a part from it, how would you do it?
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#40091 - 10/23/02 11:53 AM Re: can't find brake parts
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The quest is over, I've found the elusive return springs. I contacted the gracious folks at Hemmings in there search for parts dept.
Apparently the front brakes on my truck are Wagner type. The same system was used on Studebaker series E pickups '55-'62, and also on Jeep(yes, Jeep!) J-100-300 series pickups in '63 and '64. The whole assembly was the same, even the wheel cylinders!
Looks like I'll have my monster on the road by this weekend!
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