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#40066 - 07/18/02 02:13 PM
58 Del Ray Questions
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Grease Monkey
Registered: 07/18/02
Posts: 23
Loc: Piedmont, SC
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I have inherited my grandfather's 58 Del Ray, and need some advice.
3 speed column shift tranny: what fluid?
Differential: what fluid?
Tires: What size/brand came on this originally? I have 215/75R14 Winston whitewalls (California II) on the steel rims now.
Should I add an oil filter kit to it, or keep it original? Will that hurt the value?
I have given it two oil changes in the past week with Gunk Engine Flush. Seems to be running clean now. Using 10w-40.
I want to put electric wipers on it too, but don't want to hurt the "original-ness" of it.
Thanks for the help!
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Jon Morgan, SC, USA '58 Del Ray 2 dr, post, seamist ("Green 41" in grease pencil writing still on firewall), 99,500miles, 235 6cyl, 3speed column shift, no power nuthin'. No seatbelts, no oil filter.
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#40067 - 07/18/02 03:09 PM
Re: 58 Del Ray Questions
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Registered: 12/14/01
Posts: 11880
Loc: Central Texas
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On the differential it used 90 wt multipurpose gear grease (do not use mineral oil) on the 3 speed tranny used 90 wt multipurpose gear grease. some folks now use a multi wt gear grease 70 to 120 comes to mind or maybe it is 80 to 160WT. any way the guys at the quick lube should know. My '88 GMC with Manual 5 speed OD tranny,aluminum case, uses a special transmission fluid. This is not what your 58 needs. I do believe that Electric 2 speed wipers were optional on 1958 cars.
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#40068 - 07/18/02 03:21 PM
Re: 58 Del Ray Questions
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Grease Monkey
Registered: 07/18/02
Posts: 23
Loc: Piedmont, SC
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Thanks MrMack!
I have some 80w90 oil in the garage now (texaco gear oil). I suppose that will do, right?
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Jon Morgan, SC, USA '58 Del Ray 2 dr, post, seamist ("Green 41" in grease pencil writing still on firewall), 99,500miles, 235 6cyl, 3speed column shift, no power nuthin'. No seatbelts, no oil filter.
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#40074 - 07/25/02 10:41 AM
Re: 58 Del Ray Questions
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Grease Monkey
Registered: 07/18/02
Posts: 23
Loc: Piedmont, SC
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I appreciate all the help and replies. Thanks. I noticed that one of the tire companies spec'ed out a 800-14 tire for my car based on year and model. Right now, I'll have to opt for the $50 versions to get the car mechanically sound. Maybe later, I can splurge for the $160 orginal type tires. Good information to have for then. Where can I find the rubber door stoppers, hood stoppers, and chrome trim clips? I had a paint job done in the 80's, to stop the surface rust from becoming a problem. The body guy drilled two holes in the chrome trim and used sheet metal screws in two places to replace it! I could have bit a nail in half when I saw that!  Hopefully, I will be able to have the chrome filled in with weld and rechromed at those spots later.
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Jon Morgan, SC, USA '58 Del Ray 2 dr, post, seamist ("Green 41" in grease pencil writing still on firewall), 99,500miles, 235 6cyl, 3speed column shift, no power nuthin'. No seatbelts, no oil filter.
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#40076 - 07/25/02 02:44 PM
Re: 58 Del Ray Questions
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Grease Monkey
Registered: 07/18/02
Posts: 23
Loc: Piedmont, SC
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Good points. Without power steering, and the fact that it is a Del Ray (low end styling), Maybe I should go with the 7.50 for easy turning and originality.
I haven't "trespassed" to see the junker yet. It's trunk is pointing at the road. It is about 100 yards off of the road in some pine trees.
I do know where a good 348 engine is at a nearby shop. If anybody wants info, I'll be happy to find out more. My neighbor turned it with a wrench and said that it was smooth. I am keeping mine original, although it is tempting to swap out for a V8. Are the engine mounts the same? I wouldn't want to cut or weld my frame.
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Jon Morgan, SC, USA '58 Del Ray 2 dr, post, seamist ("Green 41" in grease pencil writing still on firewall), 99,500miles, 235 6cyl, 3speed column shift, no power nuthin'. No seatbelts, no oil filter.
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#40077 - 07/27/02 10:01 AM
Re: 58 Del Ray Questions
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Backyard Mechanic
Registered: 12/15/01
Posts: 283
Loc: Philadelphia, PA
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Hi Morgan, To replace the six with the V8 you will need the following.... Engine wiring harness and subharness Fan shroud Front springs fuel line throttle linkage and arm Frame mounts (for motor mounts) upper and lower rad hoses. 348 had dual exhaust - so you will need an new exhaust system - and the hangars. Everyrthing will "bolt right in". The molding with the "drilled holes" can be salvaged. You will need to TIG the holes shut, then grind and polish. Rubber trim pieces are available from Steele Rubber Products or http://www.lategreatchevy.com
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#176160 - 06/20/10 12:53 AM
Re: 58 Del Ray Questions
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Grease Monkey
Registered: 06/19/10
Posts: 6
Loc: United states. Texas
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so in a 58 belair u wouldnt use regular transmission fluid? im reading here that you need to use gear oil? is this correct
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#189284 - 11/21/10 07:40 PM
Re: 58 Del Ray Questions
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Shade Tree Mechanic
Registered: 11/12/10
Posts: 78
Loc: California
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If it were me, I would leave it orginal, I made a mistake installing a V8 from the orginal six. Orginals are hard to come by, and worth alot more. The 3-speed on the column, are rare. Sounds to me you want to keep it orginal. Just my opinion. But depends if you want it orginal or custom.
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