I still feel like a newbie when it comes to judging awards. My first time judged '34 received 924 points at Flint which was more than I expected. But my "Judging Results" form does not indicate any award. I understood a 1st Junior was 900-1000, 2nd: 800-899, and 3rd: 700-799. Could someone explain? Thanks ahead for any replies.

That is because other "JR" cars in your class had more points They would have had more than 924 and up to 1000

It is best for you to get a copy (or read online) of the VCCA Judging Manual. All the information is between the covers. It may take a bit of reviewing to understand it all. Most is straight forward but a few sections are a bit complicated and confusing on first blush.

Chevgene & Chipper. I do have the Judging Manual in front of me and now understand. But I am disappointed that my car was in competition with other cars. Since the VCCA promotes preservaton and accurate restoration I thought each car was judged and given awards on it's own merit.

So it looks to me now that a judged car could score above 900 numerous times but never receive an award since others in that class have higher scores, while another car in a different class might get an award, with even lower scores, due to it's competition or lack of. Is that correct?

I received my judging form in the US Mail today. Thank You Steve for getting these out so fast.

Thank you to the judging team that judged my car. I truely beleive this is the most accurate that my car has been judged. What I lost points for was very accurate and I agree 100%. There were things deducted for this time that were never deducted before. I will have to take a look at one area to fully understand the deduction. However, the minimal point deduction for that item I have no problem with at all. I think this group of judges were very fair and knowledgeable of the era. Thanks.

Job well done judging team ! Re 1948 Class.

YoungFalcon, you are correct. Another side of the coin is that you could be the only car in a class and by your score you might receive a second or third place or no award.

I also received my judging sheet today. Thanks Steve for the quick work.

Youngfalcon,
The Anniversary Meets are special in several ways. As far as judging is involved the number in a given class varies meet to meet. Unfortunately, in your case specifically 1934, the number of Junior cars was unusually high. In fact it was the first time in my 40+ years that there were more '33 and '34 cars than 1931 and 1932.

In my mind there are several ways to look at your situation. The result could give an incentive to improve your car so it does better next time. Or you can get your dobber down and say the deck was stacked against you and it ain't fair (my pappy told me innumerable times "Life ain't fair!). Or that it was the luck of the draw and you didn't get the best hand. Or you could look at it as there were several examples of '34 cars that you don't often see and how lucky you were to even get that close to them. Or just say that the VCCA Judging isn't fair so you won't ever attend another meet. I prefer to look at similar situations as a learning experience. How about you?

I would like to add my thanks to all the judging volunteers and especially the team that did the 1934's. It was obvious they took their responsibility very seriously and they did a thorough job with each car. I feel my car was judged fairly if a bit leniently. I guess I will have to be satisfied that it scored enough points to earn a 1st Junior. Given the competition component, it looks like that's not likely to ever happen.

The 50th Anniversary Meet was the first time in history that at an Anniversary Meet, each class had 2 different forms of judging going on.
The first is the VCCA Judging that happens at all National VCCA Meets. That means each vehicle can move thru the judging process with Junior Class, Senior Class, Preservation Boards, HPOCF and CDPC.
The second thing that happened at Flint was that EACH class also had 3 other winners. Namely First, Second and Third Place. So if there were 5 cars in a particular class, 3 of the vehicles would get a "special" recognition as either First Place, Second Place and Third Place. We actually had one class that received 2 ( two ) First Place trophies. That is because both vehicles received 1000 point scores.

dtm

Chipper,
I didn't see your post before my last one. I fully agree with what you are saying. My main goal in going to Flint and having it judged was to find out what mistakes I had made and what I needed to correct. From the judging, looking at the other cars, and talking with my TA, Dave Sylvain, I learned a lot. So from that perspective the trip was a big success. I now have a list of things (all small) to correct. Some I will and some probably not.

As for the "not fair" comment, I did not say, or do not think that there is anything unfair about what took place so please don't assume that is my attitude. As I said in the previous post I am satisfied that the '34 received enough points to earn an award. Given my total lack of experience (two years ago) with old Chevies plus limited mechanics and restoration experience, I am very satisfied that I "completed" and took a car to a National Meet and scored enough points to earn the highest award possible.

The second paragraph was written more to point out the types of reactions that people have when they get their judging results. I didn't intend it to read like it was your personal opinion only those that I have observed or heard about. My apologies that it might have been construed to be your reaction or opinion.

I read here that, I think, it was three vehicles received 1000 points at Flint. Can anyone tell me if these vehicles received Best of Show Awards?