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#177253 - 07/05/10 11:53 AM Why the 181 in '33 -'35?
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Since my '34 Standard Coupe has a 181 c.i. engine I have been curious why Chevrolet went down from a 194 to a 181 in 1933-35. What differences are there in these two engines and also the 207. Was is mostly the stroke? I do see some external differences. Did they use the same block? I have been told the 181 was not a very good engine, as compared to other engines, but did not get any details on why. Any history on this engine would be greatly appreciated as I am trying to learn as much as I can about Chevy's of this era.
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#177255 - 07/05/10 12:22 PM Re: Why the 181 in '33 -'35? [Re: Youngfalcon]
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The 181 was only used in 1933 and 34 standard models. It is a diffent block then the others.

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#177260 - 07/05/10 12:49 PM Re: Why the 181 in '33 -'35? [Re: Youngfalcon]
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The 1933-34 Standard 181 engine was a smaller version of a 207. The Standard was about 400 to 500 pounds lighter than a Master and the 181 engine provided adquate performance with the smaller engine thus giving better fuel milage. The transmission and differential in the Standard was of lighter construction also.

Your 1934 Standard coupe weight was 2470 pounds and the Master was 2895 pounds. The Standard would accelerate from 10 to 45 MPH in high gear in 15.10 seconds and the Master 16.23.

The Standard and Master used the same pistons and general design of the engine was the same. Due to the shorter stroke of the Standard the crankshaft was different as well as the length of the connecting rods. Due to the Standards lower block the water pump was mounted to the head rather than the block.

In 1934 the Standard had 60 HP and the Master 80. In 1935 they used the Master engine in the Standard and detuned it a bit with a smaller intake manifold and it produced 74 HP and went from 10 to 45 in only 12.98 seconds and due to carburetor improvments gave better fuel milage than the 1934 engine.

The 181 engine was just as good as a 207 and had the advantage of a shorter stroke which reduced piston speed and travel.
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#177276 - 07/05/10 05:39 PM Re: Why the 181 in '33 -'35? [Re: chevy b]
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Chevgene,

Wow, Thanks! Is there a book that has all that information. I have been collecting anything I can find since I got the '34 last fall but have not seen that kind of detail on engines.
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#177277 - 07/05/10 06:08 PM Re: Why the 181 in '33 -'35? [Re: Youngfalcon]
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I would suggest the 1933 Chevrolet Engineering Features and the 1934 Engineering Features. The 1933 version more or less outlines the engine (181). 1933 & 1934 Service News also. All available from the Filling Station for a bargin price. Just for kicks the 1935 Service News would also be intresting to see how the Standard was up=graded in 1935. The Standard was a slow seller in 1933. Did a bit better in 1934 and really took off in 1935.
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