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#167734 - 03/11/10 03:36 PM
Main bearing adjustment
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Registered: 03/30/09
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Due to the fact that the rear main seal leaks and that oil pressure is only 10 at high speed and 2 or 3 at idle, I suspect that my machinist did not get main bearing clearance tight enough. This may be due to the fact that the stupid shim kit I got from egge for $50 only came with one pair fat shims per cap. What is the best way to measure clearance while not pulling anything major?
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#167738 - 03/11/10 04:03 PM
Re: Main bearing adjustment
[Re: Chev Nut]
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Shade Tree Mechanic
Registered: 03/30/09
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 Sounds easy enough. No, the shims are single fat pieces of brass. I will be making my own shims because I can't find the proper .002 and .004 shims. Should have been more careful with the originals. What is the proper oil pressure? Also do you think I can just replace bottom of main seal?
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#167782 - 03/11/10 08:08 PM
Re: Main bearing adjustment
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It sounds to me like you need a least a minor overhaul. I hope not. Just got it fully rebuilt. 
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#167792 - 03/12/10 02:40 AM
Re: Main bearing adjustment
[Re: King_Isomer]
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Registered: 09/15/02
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There are shims being made as replacements by Federal Mogul and I believe that they are something like .006" thick. I bought a set and realized how useless they were. They were not a stack of shims. It was quite a shock seeing something like that with their name on it. I made shims from .002" brass stock from Car Quest.
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#167799 - 03/12/10 05:21 AM
Re: Main bearing adjustment
[Re: old216]
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Are you guys absolutely sure that your not mistaking those .006 shims for a solid single shim? A single .006 shim is pretty much useless when making this kind of adjustment and even a .002 shim is sometimes to coarse of an adjustment and a .001 or .0005 might be needed. I find it hard to believe that EGGE and Federal Mogul are selling a solid 006 bearing adjustment shim. As Charlie mentioned, laminated shims are pressed together under high pressure and sometimes its really hard to see the laminations or pick up an edge. If you do have to make your own, McMaster sells laminated sheet shim stock in brass, SS, and carbon steel in stacks starting at .006 on up, with .002 thick individual laminations. http://www.mcmaster.com/#shim-stock/=66nolt . They also carry individual sheet stock in brass and SS down to .001 and you can get it in rolls of SS down to .0005. Denny Graham Sandwich, IL
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#169424 - 03/30/10 02:42 PM
Re: Main bearing adjustment
[Re: Chev Nut]
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Registered: 03/30/09
Posts: 182
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I got to this over the weekend. The shims were all .006 solid brass. I was unable to peel them so I inspected them under the microscope and they were quite clearly solid. A call to Egge confirmed it. So I bought .006 laminated brass with .002 laminations and made my own shims.
I had used permatex #2 to seal the oil pan gaskets and thus the oil pan was a gigantic pain to remove. When I reinstalled it I used no sealer. Don't want to go through that again.
I used the green plasti-gauge and the clearance was over the limit of that type of plasti-gauge. I ended up only using .002 of shim under each cap and got a clearance of .0015-.002 on all bearings. I also changed the bottom half of the seal but the engine still seems to be suffering from a slight drip and being parked for a while.
After I was finished I took it out to drive for an hour or two and was disappointed to notice only a small improvement in oil pressure. Since I couldn't figure how reducing clearance by .004 would have so little effect, I bought a oil pressure gauge that read from 0-15 psi and installed directly on the outlet for the gauge. Then I proceeded to haul concrete to a recycling facility for a couple hours to make sure oil was fully heated. Then I checked the oil pressure and found it to be 6.5-7 psi at 600 rpm and 15 psi at 1600 rpm. So is everything OK? Could there have been excessive clearance and a less than accurate oil pressure gauge?
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#169509 - 03/31/10 05:10 AM
Re: Main bearing adjustment
[Re: King_Isomer]
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Registered: 09/15/02
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Loc: Bracebridge Onatrio,Canada
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I have a question about checking the main bearing clearance with the motor in the car. It hasn't been mentioned but what about placing a small piece of .001 or .002" shim stock on the main cap bearing surface and checking for binding after bolting up the cap. I thought this was an accepted method also.
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#169578 - 03/31/10 03:23 PM
Re: Main bearing adjustment
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Registered: 03/30/09
Posts: 182
Loc: US
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Thanks for the help.  I did install the oil pan gasket in that manner but the rear main seal seems to still be leaking. I will worry about it later, thought.
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