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#146141 - 06/22/09 08:44 PM
conflicting answers on gear oil
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Backyard Mechanic
Registered: 01/19/09
Posts: 331
Loc: Tennessee
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I've read everything I could find in the previous posts on this site, but there doesn't seem to be a definitive answer. Some threads lead me to believe one thing, then the next one seems to end saying something else. If I use 140W gear oil in my transmission and rear end, is it definitely going to leak, or is this on a car to car basis, depending on the condition of the seals? I intend to drive my car quite a bit and possibly in colder weather (nothing below 40 degrees, I'm near Nashville, TN)
Thanks, Brandon
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#146152 - 06/23/09 05:10 AM
Re: conflicting answers on gear oil
[Re: Junkyard Dog]
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Backyard Mechanic
Registered: 08/31/08
Posts: 347
Loc: Germany, Bad Reichenhall
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Mine leaks too and most ugly problem is, the tranny leaks at rear end and from there the differential gets overfilled and the oil will go into the left and right side of the axle, and if the seals there are bad, it will come out inside the brake drum. There is a kind of "cup" inside the brake drum to keep the oil away fom the brake linings, but this does not work perfect. Take away one of the rear wheels and you will see a hole where the oil should come out. If it works you will have an oily tire all the time, not nice too.
I did change to SAE 250 gear oil and it helps a bit, but for safety I check the oil level in differential after each longer driveout and most of the checks it is too much inside and its coming out after opening the filler plug, and in conclusion some is missing in the transmission.
As Junkyard dog posted, it is an old car and not all things can work as perfect as on today cars. It will not be possible to find perfect solutions for all problems. It is just necessary to arrange with that problems without getting frustrated. I guess, in USA a car is "she" (female). in germany it is "it" (just a thing) and you know a woman needs attention all the time...
Your water-pump-problem: You know there is a grease cup (on left side of the engine) to lube the axle shaft of the water pump. If the car was stored for decades without driving, the grease might be dry and hard. Fill it with fresh grease and tighten the nut as described in the manual, maybe it helps. There is a topic here in chatterII about 1931 water pump problems too.
You got the advice, you should do a complete service before driving a long time garaged car, do it as you can see in the manual, otherwise a lot of not funny surprises might follow. Again: Buy the manual (I bought and did study it before buying the car), it will help you a lot to understand the car.
Stefan
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#146324 - 06/25/09 09:28 AM
Re: conflicting answers on gear oil
[Re: Junkyard Dog]
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Oil Can Mechanic
Registered: 02/25/09
Posts: 596
Loc: Ottawa, Canada
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My observations on 600W: My 28 had the wrong lube in the drivetrain. Previous owner had used modern gear lube of some unknown viscosity. i went out and purchased Lubriplate SPO299, 600W. It is unlike any gear lube I have ever used. It is stickier than honey and i have to degrease (with solvent) anything it touches. I drained the drivetrain and refilled with the good stuff. 3 weeks later my clutch blew and I had to remove the transmission. to make along story short, I had to drain the transmission so as not to get bathed in said goop. I noticed that the 600W had mixed with the residue and was no longer as sticky, but was quite close to the original viscosity. My conclusion is that you can't use the modern equivalent so to speak. they are different. i have also observed that the transmission is not leaking as much any more. Here is a link to the specs: http://www.lubriplate  /pdf/pds/6_4%20SPO%20Series.pdf And to compare this to grease is laughable. Grease is rated differently. i just purchased some cornhead grease which is the softest grease you can buy with an NLGI of 0, and it is not pourable. It is definitely no gear lube (in the context used here). For reference, the NLGI scale is from 0-4, where 0 is the softest and 4 the hardest. Cornhead is a 0, regular chassis or bearing grease is around a 2 and our favorite water pump grease form Lubriplate is a 4.
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